Discussie forum over het weer, weerbericht, vooruitzichten etc
Door nolversteeg
#32617
Hoi Olaf,

Daar was ik al bang voor, dus de ouderwetse barometer truuk met tikken op de meter als hij veel verspringt wordt het slechter, of beter. dat is waarschijnlijk ook het enige waar vanuitgegaan wordt want beide stations hebben een barometer.

we gaan wat meer waarde hechten aan de MOS image en met een schuin oog kijken naar de verwachting /voorspelling van Davis.

Groeten Nol.
Door Snarf2000
#32618
Nou werd ik in eens ook nieuwsgierig naar de basis van een simpele verwachting.
Tijdens mijn zoektocht kwam ik hier terecht.
http://mediatheek.thinkquest.nl/~lld011/?page=voorspelling/first

Een hele leuke informatieve site in Jip en Janneke taal.
In het menu aan de linkerkant kun je in een submenu verder bladeren.
De basis voor een voorspelling is wel de luchtdruk.

Leest u allen maar even.

Frans
Door nolversteeg
#32619
hoi Thierry,

Jawel, zeker een bevestiging dat er weinig van klopt , zoals voorgaand verhaal 2 meetstations van hetzelfde merk waarvan er 1 alleen maar UV/Zon en barometer heeft, de andere heeft alles behalve UV en Zon , beide stations geven dezelfde forecast.

als je nu op mijn site kijkt zie je een snel stijgende barometer en een voorspelling die nergens op slaat, en is zojuist veranderd naar een iets mildere voorspelling, maar beide stations geven nog steeds dezelfde voorspelling/verwachting.

Groeten Nol
Door Eckie76
#32620
weerzoetermeer schrijft:
nolversteeg schrijft:
Maar als er regen verwacht of voorspeld wordt in de komende 12 uur en de zon schijnt al 24 uur (uiteraard in Nederland en dan nog overdag ook), Kan ik met deze verwachting niet veel. dus nog steeds de vraag met welke gegevens wordt deze verwachting samen gesteld.

groeten Nol


Blz. 24 van de handleiding zegt het volgende:



Heb je daar wat aan?

Gr.
Thierry


Kijk, hier hebben we tenminste iets aan! Goede bijdrage wederom!
Door Eckie76
#32621
nolversteeg schrijft:
Hoi Olaf,

Daar was ik al bang voor, dus de ouderwetse barometer truuk met tikken op de meter als hij veel verspringt wordt het slechter, of beter. dat is waarschijnlijk ook het enige waar vanuitgegaan wordt want beide stations hebben een barometer.

we gaan wat meer waarde hechten aan de MOS image en met een schuin oog kijken naar de verwachting /voorspelling van Davis.

Groeten Nol.


Ik ben erg tevreden over de MOS. Natuurlijk kan niks 100% perfect zijn, maar de MOS werkt bij mij in hele grote lijnen erg betrouwbaar.
Door weerzoetermeer
#32623
Eckie76 schrijft:

Kijk, hier hebben we tenminste iets aan! Goede bijdrage wederom!


Slijmbal ;)

Maar feitelijk, zoals ik van Nol begrijp, klopt er geen hout van die handleiding van Davis. Inderdaad lijkt het erop dat ze enkel de luchtdruk (trend) gebruiken voor het opmaken van de verwachting voor de komende 48 uur. Anders had Nol wel verschillende verwachting zien staan op het display. Ik ben benieuwd of er nog iets zal veranderen bij Nol....

Gr.
Thierry
Door nolversteeg
#32624
Hoi Thierry,

Ik hou het nauwlettend in de gaten, want( sem)proffesioneel zal het toch moeten zijn, en wil naar de kijkers van de site iets geloofwaardigs neerzetten en geen natte vinger methode voor veel euro's en als het niet anders is zullen we er mee moeten leven want de Yank op een ander been te zetten zal niet lukken. Tis on te verkope en nie om te gebruike , en verder nie zeik....

Groeten Nol
Door weerstationhoogeloon
#32626
nolversteeg schrijft:
.....dus de ouderwetse barometer truuk met tikken op de meter als hij veel verspringt wordt het slechter, of beter. dat is waarschijnlijk ook het enige waar vanuitgegaan wordt want beide stations hebben een barometer.....


Nol, je geeft eigenlijk zelf het antwoord al.

Ze schrijven wel in de handleiding dat het een combinatie van meerdere meet-grootheden is, met daarbij het tijd van het jaar en de locatie. Maar het kan dus niks anders zijn dan de barometer, het seizoen en de locatie; want die 3 items zijn voor beide units die je gebruikt het zelfde.

Je komt er nu achter omdat je de Vantage Pro2 console en de Envoy gebruikt op een manier die eigenlijk niemand zo gebruikt.

gr. Remie
Door ws vreewijk
#32639
Noem mij eens een weerstation die meer verwachtingen geeft als de Davis hier onder een opsomming van wat hij kan en er worden wel degelijk meer parameters gebruikt als alle andere stations.


Code: 0 = Mostly clear and colder. 1 = mostly clear with little temperature change. 2 = mostly clear for 12 hours with little temperature change. 3 = mostly clear for 12 to 24 hours and colder. 4 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 5 = of Rain and colder. 6 = Scattered Clouds with low temperature change. 7 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 8 = mostly clear and warmer. 9 = Scattered Clouds with low temperature change. 10 = Overcast with little temperature change. 11 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 12 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 24-48 hours. 13 = Overcast with little temperature change. 14 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 15 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 24 hours. 16 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 17 = Overcast with little temperature change. 18 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 19 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 12 hours. 20 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 21 = Overcast with little temperature change. 22 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 23 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 24 hours. 24 = Mostly clear and warmer. Increasing winds. 25 = Overcast with little temperature change. 26 = Mostly overcast with little temperature change. 27 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 12 hours. Increasing winds. 28 = Mostly clear and warmer. Increasing winds. 29 = Increasing clouds and warmer. 30 = Overcast with little temperature change. 31 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 32 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 12 hours. Increasing winds. 33 = Mostly clear and warmer. Increasing winds. 34 = Increasing clouds and warmer. 35 = Overcast with little temperature change. 36 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 37 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 12 hours. Increasing winds. 38 = Overcast with little temperature change. 39 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 40 = Mostly clear and warmer. Precipitation possible within 48 hours. 41 = Mostly clear and warmer. 42 = Overcast with little temperature change. 43 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 44 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 24-48 hours. 45 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. 46 = Overcast with little temperature change. 47 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 48 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 12-24 hours. 49 = Overcast with little temperature change. 50 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 51 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 12-24 hours. Breezy. 52 = Overcast with little temperature change. 53 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 54 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 12-24 hours. Breezy. 55 = Overcast with little temperature change. 56 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 57 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 6-12 hours. 58 = Overcast with little temperature change. 59 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 60 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 6-12 hours. Breezy. 61 = Overcast with little temperature change. 62 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 63 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 12-24 hours. Breezy. 64 = Overcast with little temperature change. 65 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 66 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation possible within 12 hours. 67 = Overcast with little temperature change. 68 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 69 = Increasing clouds and warmer. Precipitation likely. 70 = Clear and colder. Precipitation ending within 6 hours. 71 = Overcast with little temperature change. 72 = Clear and colder. Precipitation ending within 6 hours. 73 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 74 = Clear and colder. Precipitation ending within 6 hours. 75 = Overcast and colder. 76 = Overcast with little temperature change. 77 = Mostly clear and colder. 78 = Clear and colder. Precipitation ending within 6 hours. 79 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 80 = Clear and colder. Precipitation ending within 6 hours. 81 = Mostly clear and colder. 82 = Overcast with little temperature change. 83 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 84 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 24 hours. 85 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation continues. 86 = Overcast with little temperature change. 87 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 88 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation likely. 89 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation continues. 90 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation likely. 91 = Overcast with little temperature change. 92 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 93 = Increasingly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible and windy within 6 hours. 94 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible and windy within 6 hours. 95 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation continues. Increasing winds. 96 = Overcast with little temperature change. 97 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 98 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation likely. Increasing winds. 99 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation continues. Increasing winds. 100 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation likely. Increasing winds. 101 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 102 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 103 = Increasingly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 12 to 24 hours and possible wind direction on W NW, or N. 104 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 12 to 24 hours and possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 105 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 106 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 107 = Increasingly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 6 hours and possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 108 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 6 hours and possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 109 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation ending within 12 hours and possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 110 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Wind direction on possible W, NW, or N. 111 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation ending within 12 hours and possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 112 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Wind direction on possible W, NW, or N. 113 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation ending within 12 hours and possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 114 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 115 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 116 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 24 hours and possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 117 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation ending within 12 hours and possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 118 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 24 hours and possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 119 = Clear but windy and colder. Precipitation ending within 6 hours. 120 = Clear but windy and colder. 121 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation ending within 6 hours. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 122 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 123 = Clear but windy and colder. 124 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 125 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 126 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 12 hours. Breezy. 127 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 128 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 129 = Increasingly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 12 hours, at times violently. Breezy. 130 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation ending within 6 hours. Breezy. 131 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 132 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 133 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 12 hours. Breezy. 134 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation will end in 12-24 hours. 135 = Mostly cloudy and colder. 136 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation continues, at times violently. Breezy. 137 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 138 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 139 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 6-12 hours. Breezy. 140 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation continues, at times violently. Breezy. 141 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 142 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 143 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 6-12 hours. Breezy. 144 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 145 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 146 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 12 hours, at times violently. Breezy. 147 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Breezy. 148 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation continues, at times violently. Breezy. 149 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 150 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 151 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation likely, at times violently. Breezy. 152 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation continues, at times violently. Breezy. 153 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation likely, at times violently. Breezy. 154 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 155 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 156 = Increasingly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 6 hours. Breezy. 157 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 6 hours. Windy 158 = Increasingly cloudy and colder. Precipitation continues. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 159 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 160 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 161 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation likely. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 162 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation continues. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 163 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation likely. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 164 = Increasingly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 6 hours. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 165 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 166 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 167 = Increasingly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 6 hours and possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 168 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 6 hours. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 169 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 6 hours and possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 170 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 171 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 172 = Increasingly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 6 hours. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 173 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 6 hours. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 174 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 175 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 176 = Increasingly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 12-24 hours. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 177 = Increasing clouds with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 12-24 hours. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 178 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation at times violent, and ends within 12 hours. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 179 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 180 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 181 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 6-12 hours, at times violently. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 182 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature variation. Precipitation ending within 12 hours. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 183 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation possible within 6-12 hours, at times violently. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 184 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation continues. 185 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 186 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 187 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation likely. Windy with possible wind direction on W, NW, or N. 188 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation continues. 189 = Mostly cloudy with little temperature change. Precipitation likely. 190 = of Rain with a low temperature change. 191 = Mostly clear with little temperature change. 192 = Mostly cloudy and colder. Precipitation possible within 12 hours, at times violently. Breezy. 193 = FORECAST REQUIRES 3 HOURS OF RECENT DATA 194 = Mostly clear and colder. 195 = Mostly clear and colder. 196 = Mostly clear and colder.
Code: Here is a breakdown of the forecast icon numbers. Note that I list only each icon component. Count the values together to get the different icon combinations. (Example 3 = rain cloud with a (rain) +2 (cloud) = 3) 1 - rain drops 2 - cloud 4 - share sun (little sun - it never appears by itself) 8 - Sun (large, bright sun) 16 - Snow
Door nolversteeg
#32645
Hallo Cris,

Daar hoor je mij niet over, ik maak er ook gebruik van en heb de hele zaak zelfs vertaald en loopt als een script op mijn site, maar als je goed gelezen hebt heb ik een kale envoy met "alleen" UV/solar en wind deze geeft dezelfde resultaten als de andere console waar alles mee gemeten wordt, dat was mijn vraag.dus regen en kou kan hij niet voorspellen, en moet dus alleen op de barometer afgaan .

Groeten Nol
www.nolversteeg.nl